Tuesday, June 19, 2012

Did Jay Bouwmeester Ask To Be Traded?

I'm sure we have all read it. But from the Johnson article:
On the telephone from Montreal late Thursday afternoon, when called to discuss the Gelnias (SIC) hire, Hartley might’ve unwittingly given a tipoff as to how this all might play out.
“For me,’’ he declared, “looking at Jarome, Giordano, Tanguay, Glencross, Cammalleri, Kiprusoff . . . that’s going to be the core of our team.’’
Now maybe it was nothing more than an honest omission, or the overactive imagination of a scurrilous scribbler, but one prominent name was missing from Hartley’s list. There was no mention of No. 4. Of Jay Bouwmeester.
Which would be news, I think.

I mean, we all hate the big pussy, but he is also one of the better defensive players on the team. That probably speaks to the level of talent on the teams blueline, but it is what it is.

Who is going to play those minutes? Right? And everything you hear about the cap is that it is going to be SEVENTY MILLION MOTHERFUCKING DOLLARS G!

Like...this team is prepared to go with the dead weight of Stajan and Babchuk, but can't afford to carry Bouwmeester on its books?

I don't get that. Like I said, the Flames have shit for defence. They, like every other team in the NHL, could certainly use a player who has shown he is capable of logging minutes against real NHLers. And Bouwmeester's presence isn't blocking the development of anybody...

Do you think he asked to be traded? Because I think Jay Bouwmeester has asked to be traded.

The problem with Jay Bouwmeester...well, there are many problems with Jay Bouwmeester, but most of them have to do with perceptual things. Like, because he doesn't hit, or score, or give interviews, people think he doesn't give a shit. He certainly projects an 'I don't give a shit' aka 'Meh' vibe. But that isn't the hockey problem with Bouwmeester. The hockey problem with Bouwmeester is that he eats up a lot of cap-space.

Thing is, the Flames have plenty of cap-space. They are sitting at around 20 million dollars in cap-space according to Cap Geek. You know what they don't have? Players who can fucking defend properly. They were using But7er on the top pairing last year, for Whalen's sake. It's amazing Bouwmeester wasn't a minus 82, if you think about it like that.

So, I mean, I don't get why they would trade the guy by choice. If they have an offer on the table that is good, like a swap of NHL players, Bouwmeester for a forward, for instance, then yeah, I can see that. But to trade Bouwmeester for cap space for a chance to try and land some free agents who might consider coming here...doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Unless, of course, he asked for a trade.

Edmonton? I'm praying to Whalen that he asked to be traded to Edmonton.

I saw on Flamesnation that there is noise the team has also put Backlund on the trading block.

To me, this is the same shit as the Bouwmeester thang. Why would the Flames trade a guy when he is at his lowest point in terms of value, when they have nobody in their system who they can plug into his spot?

Now I don't think Backlund has asked to be traded, (although who knows) which is kinda even more...the word Wilson used was 'disconcerting', and exactly, right?

Maybe the team does intend to trade players who have shown they can play minutes in the NHL for...dreams? I guess?

Could you imagine? And yet, I think we all could. Like, asking people to believe the team is being run poorly isn't that much of a stretch.

In a way, I guess I am raising the possibilty that Jay Bouwmeester has asked for a trade as a way to cope. Because, honestly, the thought that the people steering The Good Ship Flames would think they could trade Jay Bouwmeester without having any assurances they could then fill that newly created hole is terrifying.

Now that I think about it, that would be my objection. Not that they are trading Bouwmeester, but that they are trading Bouwmeester at the draft, and not after July 1, when the team would be operating in a safer environment, I think, to make that trade.

Furthermore, I think Peter Loubardias Ken King should be fired.


  1. from the article:

    "There’s a top guy, Bob Hartley, in place who, while noted as an unflinching taskmaster, is also renowned for putting his illustrious vets up on a pedestal, cutting them a goodly amount of slack, giving them a long leash."

    I'm hoping what that last part actually means is the colloquial "enough rope to hang himself," pertaining to Iginla. Nothing against the guy, but it seems that for way too long, this team has been trying to run systems and the big swingin' dick with the C on his sweater has never bought in. Maybe it's a case of trying to fit square peg into a round hole, but hey, it's a system built for the talentless assholes they've surrounded Jarome with, not for Jarome himself.

    Ship Jarome for assets while the GMs in this league still consider him worth it.

  2. Backlund has been "Sutterized" for 3 years. No point trading him now, when you still don't know what you have. Give him another year or 2 to play under a different coach, give him good minutes and PP time to see if this kid can stay injury free, and more importantly, score some fucking goals. As for JayBo, I agree, the only reason to hate him and want him gone is his salary. If he made 2-3 million, we would all love what he brings to the table. Not everyone is Scott Stevens. My biggest concern with trading him is who takes his spot. Thin thin thin. JayBo will never be Doughty, but he is solid. Yes he's a fraud, but to dump him for a 2nd rounder...? What's the point. If you can get a quality player, a 2nd rounder, and/or a prospect, then go for it. You need to make a big move, and you're not moving Gio, so definitly see what's out there and be prepared to pull the trigger, just don't do it with the expectation that Clay Wilson will seamlessly fit right in.

  3. I think George Johnson is out of his mind. I doubt Bouwmeester has asked to be traded, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happens.

    It's funny to think trading him is just going to exacerbate what a long year it's going to be.

  4. Good to have you back, DB.

  5. Rumours today are J-Bo to Pittsburgh.

    With all the talk about J-Staal rejecting a long term contract a J-Bo + Backlund for Staal + (say) a 2nd rnd pick works for me.

    I'd even take back a pkg if it included DePres or Morrow

  6. Logical fit for JayBo....Nashville. They just picked up 2 x 2nd round picks from TB, Cgy needs a 2nd rounder. If they think they will lose Suter on July 1st, they might be forced to make a move for someone like JayBo. Obviously a 2nd rounder alone won't get a deal done, but it's food for thought. As brutal as his salary is, we have eaten 3 years of it now, and there are only 2 more years left. If the cap goes up, more teams will have more room to play with. It's funny, JayBo might actually be considered an asset now vs. an albatros. Unlike Stajan, who deserves a raise.

  7. JBlows can't defend properly either. It was clear teams were getting a read on him, since forwards were starting to beat him on a regular basis as the season progressed. He has great straight line speed, but has trouble along the boards, and actually he's not that mobile in general. His passing is average at best, hampered by the fact he's not so fast at turning around in the defensive zone.

    If Sutter actually utilized him as an offensive d-man that he really is, he'd probably be less derided.


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